William Edwin Lucas, 18841967 (aged 83 years)

Name
William Edwin /Lucas/
Surname
Lucas
Given names
William Edwin
Nickname
Ted
Birth 26 February 1884 24 21
Source: B.Cert
Census

Birth of a brotherHerbert Lucas
27 July 1885 (aged 1 year)
Christening 16 November 1885 25 22 (aged 1 year)
Christening of a sisterElizabeth Ellen Lucas
16 November 1885 (aged 1 year)
Christening of a brotherHerbert Lucas
16 November 1885 (aged 1 year)
Death of a brotherHerbert Lucas
1885 (aged 0)

Birth of a sisterMargaret Ann Lucas
31 May 1887 (aged 3 years)
Death of a maternal grandfatherJoseph Scragg
19 November 1887 (aged 3 years)
Source: JC's Notes
Death of a motherMargaret Emma Scragg
24 December 1889 (aged 5 years)
Source: D.Cert
Census 31 March 1901 (aged 17 years)
Occupation
Eating House Assistant
31 March 1901 (aged 17 years)
Census 1911 (aged 26 years)
Note: William is a member of the crew of a steam trawler the Sulby.
Birth of a daughterJoan Lucas
17 June 1919 (aged 35 years)

Birth of a sonWilliam E Lucas
22 January 1921 (aged 36 years)

Death of a fatherWilliam Lucas
26 December 1925 (aged 41 years)
Source: PRO
Citation details: Deaths Oct-Dec 1925 Fylde 8e 885
Death 4 December 1967 (aged 83 years)
Source: JC's Notes
Family with parents
father
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18601925
Birth: 1860Stoke-on-Trent?
Death: 26 December 1925Lancs Fleetwood
mother
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18621889
Birth: 23 December 1862 36 33
Death: 24 December 1889Lancs Liverpool St Johns
Marriage Marriage14 June 1882Green Prairie Little Falls Minnesota, USA
6 months
elder sister
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18821976
Birth: 22 December 1882 22 19USA Minnesota Little Falls Green Prairie
Death: 6 September 1976Somerset Bristol
14 months
himself
Standing, with his father
18841967
Birth: 26 February 1884 24 21Usa Minnesota Little Falls Green Prairie
Death: 4 December 1967Notts Nottingham
17 months
younger brother
18851885
Birth: 27 July 1885 25 22Green Prairie Little Falls Minnesota, USA
Death: 1885
22 months
younger sister
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18871968
Birth: 31 May 1887 27 24Green Prairie Little Falls Minnesota, USA
Death: 12 November 1968Canada Ontario Oshawa
Family with Mabel Eleanor Scragg
himself
Standing, with his father
18841967
Birth: 26 February 1884 24 21Usa Minnesota Little Falls Green Prairie
Death: 4 December 1967Notts Nottingham
wife
18921977
Birth: 28 July 1892 24 25Wales Bangor Holywell
Death: 23 February 1977Notts Nottingham Sherwood Hospital
daughter
19191973
Birth: 17 June 1919 35 26
Death: 10 January 1973Notts Nottingham Basford
20 months
son
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19212008
Birth: 22 January 1921 36 28
Death: 31 March 2008Notts Nottingham
son
Private
daughter
Private
Birth
Census

William is a member of the crew of a steam trawler the Sulby.

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Note

Ted remembered one episode in his life in Minnesota, a big fire, and spoke of it to his eldest son Bill. It was also spoken of by William Lucas's friend William Chadwick, and it is recorded in an interview with the Little Falls Daily Transcript of March 17 1958 from an interview with Albert Chadwick: "A dangerous and tragic episode was the fire in the big barn (owned by the Tree Lumber Co) on the river bank near the end of the railway bridge. A fine barn holding 35 of the company's 175 or more horses. It was topped with a big flagpole. Mr Chadwick was crossing with his team and wagon to the "select" lumber yard in a drizzle of rain when he saw lightning strike that imposing flagpole, the fire running down it to the stacks of hay within. Calling to another driver nearby to save the horses, he tied his horses to a pole and raced for the barn, hoping to save the horses. The first he found was already dead struck by the lightning. the others wild with fear of the fire, fought to escape. Only 17 were got out, and those had to be driven away from to stop them from running back into the barn. Albert Chadwick was going back to try to save at least some of the harness when a boss stopped him. As they stood watching, out came aother horse its bridle burning, and its head close to the ground, where the smoke was'nt so dense. They stopped it long enough to extinguish the blaze on the bridle then it was off at a gallop across the track and away. They saw no more of it until the next day."

On return to Liverpool, Ted, along with his elder sister Lizzy, was drawn into the Fried Fish Shop empire of his aunt Sarah Jane. He is found in the 1901 census living with Walter Rowland, where his entry is: William Lucas, Nephew, S, 17, M, Eating House assistant, Worker, Isle Of Man. We can only guess why Walter falsely declared that Ted was born in the Isle Of Man, and that he was Walter's nephew.

Ted served in the army, and was gassed at Passendale. He was advised to take a job in the open. He became a shopkeeper running a general stores in Nottingham from which he did the deliveries etc.. Despite this disability, he lived to over 80 years of age.

His two sons took over the family business, keeping it going until the eldest was in his late seventies.

Note

Anne Holland, his grand daughter, writes:

I smile when you say that Dad Dad (William Lucas) was told by his doctor to get an outside job and took up being a greengrocer- he had to get up at 5 in the morning and go to market where he met up with a few of his freinds. When he got back to the shop he unloaded ready to open the shop. Later in life he started selling produce direct to homes-together with my Mum (Joan Lucas).

Later on of course after the war Bill & Steve did this as well as having the shop.

Note

A full accounmt of the steam trawler, Sulby, can be found on the website www.fleetwood-trawlers.info with photos and an account of her loss in November 1939 through enemy action.

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